Elite Skills Capture Question - Guild Wars Forums

chaos of the elemen · Jun 19, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Hi all, I am trying to cap Stunning Strike for my Paragon. The only problem is that my paragon isn't that far in the game.

I know I can cap this with my ele who has completed all three campaigns if I make his secondary a paragon. Now, my question is once I change his secondary back to ranger, will I lose that elite skill on my paragon?

Thanks for the help!

sprintcar88h · Jun 19, 2007, 02:25 PM // 14:25

you'll still have to cap it with your paragon unless you use an elite skill tomb for your para

chaos of the elemen · Jun 19, 2007, 02:37 PM // 14:37

Really?

what is an elite skill tomb and where do i get it?

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Edit:

Did some Googleing and found what they are and where they come from.

Can I get a tomb with my ele and give it to my paragon? I've never even dabbled in hard mode.

The site I found makes it sound like any boss will drop one. Is it a guarantee or do I just have to get lucky?

Onarik Amrak · Jun 19, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36

It's a TOME not a tomb. One is a book and the other is something people put you in once you're dead.

They drop from Hard Mode creatures. Elite Skill Tomes only drop from bosses in HM.

lennymon · Jun 19, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14

yes, you can give it to your paragon

GranDeWun · Jun 19, 2007, 04:27 PM // 16:27

PvE characters only have elite skills they capture themselves, except that they can use a TOME to learn a skill if it has already been unlocked by any character on the account.

chaos of the elemen · Jun 19, 2007, 05:15 PM // 17:15

alright, looks like I need to by a tome then.

Thanks

havok019 · Jun 19, 2007, 05:26 PM // 17:26

Cap it with your Ele to unlock the skill. Buy an elite Para tome (maybe like $15k?), give it to your Para. Now you can use tome to give elite skill to your para.
You could try to farm in HM with your Ele for the Para tome. Tomes drop enough, but it could still take awhile to find. Maybe worth the money depending on how much your need the skill.

You can also use this procedure to let your character use skills your heroes have unlocked either through hero skill trainers or the free skills you get when you acquire a hero. Use a skill tome (not elite, here). They drop more frequently.

Absinth187 · Jun 19, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30

You can also unlock skills (regular and elite) using faction, and then use a tome to learn it on your pve character.

chaos of the elemen · Jun 19, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

great, thanks for all the help everyone!

...anyone wanna sell me a tome? :P

lazyrussian · Jun 19, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by Absinth187

You can also unlock skills (regular and elite) using faction, and then use a tome to learn it on your pve character.

I thought faction can only unlock skills for PvP - if not, then I'm going to log in right now and buy a crap load of skills

Absinth187 · Jun 19, 2007, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Originally Posted by lazyrussian

I thought faction can only unlock skills for PvP - if not, then I'm going to log in right now and buy a crap load of skills

Sorry I wasn't clear. Buying skills with faction does unlock it for pvp, BUT it will also unlock it for learning via a tome for pve. This is advantageous if you don't have a character far enough, don't want to bother capping it from the boss, or if you have tons of faction and nothing else to do with it.

lazyrussian · Jun 19, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Absinth187

You can also unlock skills (regular and elite) using faction, and then use a tome to learn it on your pve character.

I thought faction can only unlock skills for PvP - if not, then I'm going to log in right now and buy a crap load of skills

havok019 · Jun 19, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52

No, unlocking a skill is account based. Once something is unlocked, it's unlocked across all your characters. However, you still need to either cap it with that character, buy it with that character (plat or faction depending) or use a tome to put it on that particular character. Unlocking just makes it available to do so, regardless of PvE or PvP. Same with weapon upgrades, etc.

On the side -- it always ticked me off that I could have a hero with a skill, and it's unlocked, but I have to pay $1k to get it onto my main character so he could use it himself. In the other direction, if I cap a skill or learn a skill, my hero has access immediately. Ehhh

greendc27 · Jun 19, 2007, 08:48 PM // 20:48

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Originally Posted by chaos of the elemen

great, thanks for all the help everyone!

...anyone wanna sell me a tome? :P

Actually I just found an elite paragon tome yesterday. If your interested pm me an offer.

Jun 19, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19	#1
chaos of the elemen Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Liars Cheats and Thieves Profession: E/	Elite Skills Capture Question Hi all, I am trying to cap Stunning Strike for my Paragon. The only problem is that my paragon isn't that far in the game. I know I can cap this with my ele who has completed all three campaigns if I make his secondary a paragon. Now, my question is once I change his secondary back to ranger, will I lose that elite skill on my paragon? Thanks for the help!

Jun 19, 2007, 02:37 PM // 14:37	#3
chaos of the elemen Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Liars Cheats and Thieves Profession: E/	Really? what is an elite skill tomb and where do i get it? ======== Edit: Did some Googleing and found what they are and where they come from. Can I get a tomb with my ele and give it to my paragon? I've never even dabbled in hard mode. The site I found makes it sound like any boss will drop one. Is it a guarantee or do I just have to get lucky? Last edited by chaos of the elemen; Jun 19, 2007 at 02:40 PM // 14:40..

Jun 19, 2007, 02:25 PM // 14:25	#2
sprintcar88h Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: north phillys finest Profession: N/Mo	you'll still have to cap it with your paragon unless you use an elite skill tomb for your para

Jun 19, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36	#4
Onarik Amrak Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Astral Revenants Profession: P/W	It's a TOME not a tomb. One is a book and the other is something people put you in once you're dead. They drop from Hard Mode creatures. Elite Skill Tomes only drop from bosses in HM.

Jun 19, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14	#5
lennymon Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	yes, you can give it to your paragon

Jun 19, 2007, 04:27 PM // 16:27	#6
GranDeWun Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005	PvE characters only have elite skills they capture themselves, except that they can use a TOME to learn a skill if it has already been unlocked by any character on the account.

Jun 19, 2007, 05:15 PM // 17:15	#7
chaos of the elemen Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Liars Cheats and Thieves Profession: E/	alright, looks like I need to by a tome then. Thanks

Jun 19, 2007, 05:26 PM // 17:26	#8
havok019 Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: HdCr Profession: W/Mo	Cap it with your Ele to unlock the skill. Buy an elite Para tome (maybe like $15k?), give it to your Para. Now you can use tome to give elite skill to your para. You could try to farm in HM with your Ele for the Para tome. Tomes drop enough, but it could still take awhile to find. Maybe worth the money depending on how much your need the skill. You can also use this procedure to let your character use skills your heroes have unlocked either through hero skill trainers or the free skills you get when you acquire a hero. Use a skill tome (not elite, here). They drop more frequently.

Jun 19, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30	#9
Absinth187 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 32??45′26.49″N, 97??19′59.45″W Guild: Some Like It Hot [sake]	You can also unlock skills (regular and elite) using faction, and then use a tome to learn it on your pve character.

Jun 19, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31	#10
chaos of the elemen Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Liars Cheats and Thieves Profession: E/	great, thanks for all the help everyone! ...anyone wanna sell me a tome? :P

Jun 19, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52	#14
havok019 Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: HdCr Profession: W/Mo	No, unlocking a skill is account based. Once something is unlocked, it's unlocked across all your characters. However, you still need to either cap it with that character, buy it with that character (plat or faction depending) or use a tome to put it on that particular character. Unlocking just makes it available to do so, regardless of PvE or PvP. Same with weapon upgrades, etc. On the side -- it always ticked me off that I could have a hero with a skill, and it's unlocked, but I have to pay $1k to get it onto my main character so he could use it himself. In the other direction, if I cap a skill or learn a skill, my hero has access immediately. Ehhh